By: Nozhan Etezadosaltaneh
Tadbir: as appeared from the name of "Republican people" party the CHP is a left party and you always said that the CHP is a "left-center" party. With respect to this issue, what the classes And social forces are member of the CHP ? what is the number of CHP Supporters ?
Klicdaroglu: The CHP has been receiving votes from every segment of the Turkish society since the first elections in republic’s history. It has nearly 1 million registered members. In the 2011 general elections, it received nearly 11 million votes. In a closer look, it can be observed that mostly social democrat and secular people vote for the CHP. Its progressive stance in politics puts the party at the center-left on Turkish political spectrum.
Tadbir: some Turkish liberal and islamists rejected kemalism legacy. What do you think about this issue ? why the Turk liberals are against kemalism ? do you think The kemalism can answers to Demands of Globalization era?
Kilicdaroglu: First of all, we have to recognize fact that certain so-called liberals and Islamists try to challenge the Kemalism legacy. I think they are obsessed with the political atmosphere of the 1930s and the 1940s. Islamists might oppose the secular character of Kemalism. Liberals, however, have been problematizing the way in which the Kemalism approaches the Kurdish issue. In my view, the secular character of the state is what makes Turkish democracy strong and enduring. However, with respect to the Kurdish issue, CHP has developed itself in accordance with the needs of the society. Today, the only political actor in Turkish politics which emphasizes the democratic, peaceful and egalitarian solution of the Kurdish problem is the CHP. If you take Kemalism with its progressive parameters, the result would always be more fruitful.
Tadbir: You always criticize the economic model (free market ) of AKP Party. However supporter of AKP said the erdogan state success in high economic growth from 2003 until now. What is your opinion about AKP economic policy? What is the CHP alternative about economic arena?
Kilicdaroglu: AKP’s economic policy is based on speculative-hot money, which increases the fragility of the economy. Today, Turkey is more vulnerable to international and regional economic crises. Majority of Turkish people has become more dependent on borrowing with the credit cards while the pro-AKP elites have increased their wealth. In other words, economic gap between the social groups has been widening. In the field of economy, the CHP prioritizes production. In our understanding, employment-based economic development contributes to more egalitarian society and greater social justice. In 2011 general elections, in order to support poor families, we proposed family insurance which amounts 600 Turkish lira per month. This was a measure to improve income distribution in favor of poorer families.
Tadbir: the CHP is a member of international socialist. You agree with what socialism model ? do you think socialism can answer to questions of 21 century ?
Kilicdaroglu: Yes, the CHP is one of the most active members of the Socialist International. I definitely believe that social democracy (democratic socialism) can provide answers to the challenges of our times. The development gap between northern and southern hemispheres, poverty, hunger, ecological problems, armed-conflicts and terrorism are the basic problems of our planet. Wild-capitalism presents fertile environment for the persistence of these problems. Look at the Scandinavian countries! What lies behind their success and development is social democratic governance model.
Tadbir: Why the CHP has been unable to form a non-coalition government ? why Turkish people vote for the right and why the still can not come together on left?
Kilicdaroglu: In regard to voting behaviour in Turkey, I think, religion and religious values are in play. The right wing parties, including the AKP, have used religious values to increase their votes. In other words, they have exploited religion for political purposes.
I strongly believe that, when the CHP convinces Turkish people that the social democracy, social justice and fair distribution of wealth are the only way for sustainable development and more equal society, they will vote for the CHP.
Tadbir: Mr. Kilicdaroglu, Do CHP considered Kurdish identity existential threat to Turkish territorial integrity ? what is your opinion about Kurdish issues that state in erdogan package (particularly about free Kurdish language study)?
Kilicdaroglu: CHP does not consider Kurdish identity as an existential threat to Turkish territorial integrity. We do not think that the AKP is sincere in solving the Kurdish question. Rather, they are playing with the Kurdish people by raising their expectations. CHP does not question the identity of its citizens. The Kurds and all of us are equal before the law and equal as human beings. We support the learning of the Kurdish language. The official language of Turkey is Turkish and the state is under obligation to provide education in the Turkish language.
Tadbir: What do you think about turkey tendency to middle east in AKP era ? do this issue is bad for the process of turkey's membership in the EU?
Kilicdaroglu: Turkey’s regional influence has been drastically reduced. We have most recently observed this in the release of the Turkish Airlines pilots who were kidnapped in Lebanon. The AKP’s adventurist policy resulted in Turkey losing its efficiency in the Middle East. Political trends in Arab countries that are in alliance with the AKP are in retreat. Turkey has been isolated and the AKP’s suspicious relations with terrorist groups operating in Syria and Iraq have been posing fresh dangers for the security of our country and of our citizens. AKP’s Middle East policy has negative repercussions on Turkey-EU relations. Turkey has become a party to the conflicts in its region and that is why the EU is less enthusiastic about Turkey’s accession.
Tadbir: you said the "zero problems neighbours" policy of AKP party has failed. Why the reason this issue ?
Kilicdaroglu: AKP’s adventurist foreign policy is the basic reason for this. There is a mismatch between Turkey’s capacity and the AKP’s unrealistic tendencies and claims of being a global power. The zero problems with neighbours policy started with unrealistic claims and was perceived by our neighbours as interference in their domestic affairs. The policy was also suspected as an effort by AKP to re-establish Turkish dominance in the region, dubbed as “neo-Ottomanism”.
Tadbir: what is your opinion about AKP foreign policy to Syria ? what is the CHP Solution for solve Syria's crisis ?
Kilicdaroglu: CHP supports a political solution to the crisis through diplomatic means. To this end, we fully support the Geneva-2 process. We believe that a military intervention to Syria would not alleviate the conflict; rather it will jeopardize efforts for a peaceful solution. Turkey should not take sides in the conflict and should stop interfering in Syria’s domestic affairs.
Tadbir: what is your idea about arab spring ? can we say that gezi park protest was the "Turkish spring"?
Kilicdaroglu: I am of the opinion that the dynamics that caused the Arab Spring are still powerful, as are the peoples’ demands and anticipation for democracy and freedom. However, extreme groups are attempting to hijack the winds of democracy in our region; to shape them in line with their own agenda and. Gezi Parkı protests were the most serious warning to the AKP Government and Prime Minister. People raised their voices for more freedom and democracy. People said, “enough is enough”.
Tadbir: earlier you said Turkish prison are such as a university because AKP arrested many of student's protestors. What is your opinion about university and do the AKP respects the independence of education institute ?
Kilicdaroglu: AKP has fortified YÖK (The Council of Higher Education). YÖK is an obstacle for the independence of Turkish universities. Today, most of the universities in Turkey continue their studies under the pressure of the AKP. AKP has no respect for knowledge and science. They interfere with the governance of all scholarly and scientific bodies in Turkey and try to turn them into tools of AKP policies.
Tadbir: the turkey constitution considered the regulatory role for the army. But critics said the turkey's army intervened in politics, what is your opinion about military and politics relations ?
Kilicdaroglu: Both institutions should only deal with their own business. Political institutions in Turkey should not lean on the constitution which was brought by military regime in 1982. Military should be out of politics and politics should be kept out of the military.
Tadbir: I want to know your ideas about the common interests of iran and turkey. Do you think the iran and turkey can strengthen cooperation between together ? do the CHP party have any program for promote Tehran – Ankara relations ?
Kilicdaroglu: Turkey – Iran relations are very important for the security and stability of the Middle East. The peaceful solution of the regional conflicts, including Syria, is possible with the positive relations between Iran and Turkey. We are ready to support all initiatives for promoting Tehran-Ankara relations. I congratulate the recent agreement between Iran P5+Germany. This paves the way to a broader and lasting agreement of all the issue on the table. The rights of the Iranian people have been recognized. Our region is in a better position today with the Geneva accord.
I look forward to visiting Iran soon and extend my best wishes for the success, well-being and prosperity of the esteemed Iranian people.
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